Comments on: A different take on that Bros review https://buzztrips.co.uk/posts/a-different-take-on-that-bros-review/ Hiking & Dining on & off the Beaten Track Mon, 26 Sep 2022 08:28:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: Jack https://buzztrips.co.uk/posts/a-different-take-on-that-bros-review/#comment-486622 Mon, 26 Sep 2022 08:28:39 +0000 https://buzztrips.co.uk/?p=17438#comment-486622 In reply to Patrick.

There’s no doubt there was a hefty dose of pretentiousness involved. But the main problem I have with the writer is they position themselves as being someone who writes about food, so I expect them to walk into an establishment like that armed with certain knowledge. This would include knowing tasting menus in a Michelin star restaurant don’t have a main course; the very fact that it is a Michelin star means there’s likely to be a certain amount of theatre (some may call it pretentiousness) involved; if you want the chef to mess around with the menu, you have to let them know in advance. Sure, they got a lot of views, comments, and support. But for me the writer lost credibility when it comes to writing about food, and they and their friends came across as being quite unpleasant and rude. Maybe the chef was as well, but two wrongs and all that.

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By: Patrick https://buzztrips.co.uk/posts/a-different-take-on-that-bros-review/#comment-485507 Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:11:25 +0000 https://buzztrips.co.uk/?p=17438#comment-485507 I thought art was supposed to be refined by criticism. Even unfair criticism has a grain of truth. The chef’s response to this article is, I think, evidence that he is incredibly pretentious and therefore lacks the ability to accept and improve from criticism. While I’ve never tried his food, I suspect any food cooked by such a person may in fact be just as bad as the article described. A chef who cared about his customers and really wanted them to enjoy his art would probably have started with an apology and request for suggestions to improve, not a picture of a horse.

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By: Patrick https://buzztrips.co.uk/posts/a-different-take-on-that-bros-review/#comment-485504 Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:01:29 +0000 https://buzztrips.co.uk/?p=17438#comment-485504 In reply to Jack.

They did note that there was no menu, only a scannable code for the meal leading to a video of the chef doing extreme sports. So if anything, they could probably be forgiven for not realizing that they would be served food that they would be allergic to, which would include a large portion of the tasting menu. Hell, they almost certainly didn’t know there would be no main course because there was no information available to judge what they would be eating. Also, if you dislike pretentiousness, what did you think of the chef’s reply?

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By: Jack https://buzztrips.co.uk/posts/a-different-take-on-that-bros-review/#comment-366703 Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:32:55 +0000 https://buzztrips.co.uk/?p=17438#comment-366703 In reply to Nic.

I take your points, and personally dislike pretentiousness in cooking if it’s just for the sake of it. Of course it should be held to account if the food/service etc. doesn’t warrant the price tag (like the Salt Bae fiasco in London recently) and the experience amounts to little more than a case of the emperor’s new clothes. But, thanks to many of the alarm triggers I’ve mentioned from the review itself (did they consult the restaurant beforehand about dietary requirements as is normally the case with restaurants of this ilk? Why did they expect a tasting menu to have a main course?), I wonder if that was fully the case? It might be, it might not be. We’d only know for sure if we experienced the restaurant first hand. From other food posts on the blogger’s website it looks like their M.O. is ripping the piss out of other countries’ foods.

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By: Nic https://buzztrips.co.uk/posts/a-different-take-on-that-bros-review/#comment-365410 Fri, 17 Dec 2021 13:06:38 +0000 https://buzztrips.co.uk/?p=17438#comment-365410 Adding however, I fully support your criticism of the tone of the article ripping apart artists’ work for humorous effect and dismissive attitude towards whole cuisines for cheap laughs. Let’s just not fall into the elitist vs consumer narrative.

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By: Nic https://buzztrips.co.uk/posts/a-different-take-on-that-bros-review/#comment-365398 Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:39:24 +0000 https://buzztrips.co.uk/?p=17438#comment-365398 The reviewer wasnt mocking the concept of taster menus, they were critiquing THIS taster menu of 27 dishes that didn’t satisfy and bordered on inedible, and a marked pretentious attitude overall. It’s not art if you don’t expect criticism, and there’s an inherent requirement in this medium that you don’t hold people hostage for 4.5 hours and not give them adequate and clearly edible food. If it were simply a tasting/sensory experience they could advise people to have a light meal beforehand.

Art has a habit of becoming a bubble where any criticism is dismissed as a failing on the consumer’s part, and the idea that if the general public likes it you’re not any good is very pervasive, and leads to a perception that you have to do inaccessible, convoluted work to be great. Mozart was popular throughout his life and still is the most renowned composer. The review seems pretty clear to me and mentioned clear issues with service and respect for their customers’ health needs ( a bare minimum), and also stated that there was no attempt to help the diners follow the narrative which should be a given particularly if you’re trying to be “edgy” in a difficult to digest way.
No shame in going too far trying to create something great, just don’t be condescending about it and act like the gods of all art.

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